Today I continued a debate on the ACDP wall. One guy claimed that "Government was created by God" and followed it up with a load of unintelligible rhetoric that made me think he was some kind of pulpit-pilot who was at 80 000 feet and still climbing (possibly suffering the effects of asphyxia). Now to begin with, I find statements like that to be utterly astounding. Which god was that exactly? Ok, I understand he and those like him are religious and they think their religion has everything right. This train of thought however, can be derailed by two simple words: "PROVE IT".
Far be it for me to try to dissuade them - but their religion dates back only a few thousand years - somewhere between 3 and 4 thousand. Before that there were already other older civilizations with their own governments - and incidentally, their own religions.
Now I suppose next he will try to convince me that uttering such statements - and actually believing them - is a matter of faith. Indeed. However, he can't be old enough to have been around to witness evolution - or the christian version of the same process - "Creationism" - he can't have heard this god's voice, or seen him/her or it. All he has ever known of this deity is what other people (with the same striking lack of personal experience) have told him, based on records which are 3000 years old and have been edited, changed, omitted and embellished in all that time.
The truth is, that neither the people who wrote those records, nor the people who read them have any idea whether or not any of it is in fact true at all as none of can be verified. And since quite a few of them have been dead even longer than Elvis, we can't ask them either. Darn. And yet they believe it anyway - and try to force others to believe it - and they persecute others based on - what? Theory? Conjecture? A warm fuzzy feeling they get in church every other sunday? Other people's fantasies? They call gay people in loving, permanent relationships who seek affirmation by using the word "marriage" people who "choose to sin", an "abomination", a threat to "the traditional family", their God and civilization - and then pass around the collection plate, saying 'thank you, you were a wonderful audience'.
I wonder, do these people listening to this sort of nonsense - or those saying it - ever stop to actually think about any of it?
Now I have yet to meet any mortal entity that could ever pose a threat to a God powerful enough to speak the universe into being, or a civilization that collapsed because gay people fell in love and got married. And as a footnote - what the hell is this "traditional family" they talk so convincingly about anyway? They claim same gender marriage will increase the heterosexual divorce rate. LOL. Straight people get divorced a hell of a lot more than gay people do, so there are a great many people out there raising kids as single parents, so where is this "traditional family" - and how do they see same gender marriage as a threat to it? How does one marriage "threaten" another anyway? Do they gang up on each other and try to anul each others marriages? What do they mean? Do they even KNOW? That is like saying if Mike and Jill get married they pose a threat to the marriage between Mark and Susan. That is just stupid! Utter bollocks to be exact. It makes about as much sense to me as affirmative action.
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They cannot possibly be sure of the ground on which they stand, but they are nevertheless intent on jumping up and down, screaming "Thou shalt not!" and waving fingers in other people's faces like temperamental spoiled brats throwing a fit because they can't get their way. Some elements in religious parties today complain that the "christian viewpoint is ridiculed". Hmm. Perhaps these clever people should ask themselves why instead of pointing fingers at others and open their eyes to see their own faults instead.
Simon Sez 'be straight'. No thanks, I'm through playing 'Simon Sez', I'm in the mood for some 'show 'n tell' now. Maybe I'll follow it up with a little 'pin the tail on the donkey'.
While I don't have any objection to people praying, singing or talking about their brand of religion (to people who actually want to listen), finding comfort in it, using it as a crutch etc - what I object to is the unreasonable, irrational and utterly infuriating tendency of SOME (NOT ALL) Christians to try to force their beliefs on others, to feel justified to step over everybody so that they can look down on everybody else and place themselves in a position to judge them as if they themselves have no blemishes or faults of their own, the "full right" to do so - and to claim that some god supposedly told them to. Yeah, right.
People who claim to be Christians should then live like Christ and not make hypocrites of themselves and their god by persecuting others for things which a) are immutible, b) threaten no-one in any way and c) in the process violate whatever of their own gods commands it currently suits them to do so.
These fundamentalists at the ACDP and CDA etcetera may want a 'christian' government running SA, forcing their conservative fascist beliefs down on everybody else, playing god with our lives, commiting human rights atrocities and calling it "gods will' - but I don't, thank you very much.
The ACDP's policy attacks equality of people based on sexual orientation and gender identity. It associates with people and organizations that would advocate the death penalty and other harsh punishments for them for simply existing. Their own manifesto brags of their intent to revoke gay civil equality and their leaders have unjustifiably and unprovoked, vilified GLBT publicly for years.
At the end of the day, looking at all this evidence to the contrary, these people actually have the nerve to insult both our intelligence and their own God who said 'love one another as I have loved you' by saying they are his "true" followers and represent Christianity.
If I were still a christian I would be so very, very ashamed.